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I don't believe that Led Zeppelin ever played jazz. Hendrix would sit down it with anyone, oft playing with jazz players in the clubs. At that place are unissued sessions of him sitting in with Dave The netherlands and John McLaughlin. There was talk of him doing sessions with Miles Davis if he would non have died. In add-on, John Bonham was more of a straight stone drummer, while Buddy Miles favored fatback funk drumming and Mitch Mitchell came from the Ginger Baker schoolhouse of jazz influenced busy drumming.
Jimi Hendrix all the mode. Move over Rover and allow Jimi take over.
Zeppelin had an advantage in having i actress member, than Jimi. Zeppelin had basically had three songwriters, vs Jimi (sorry Noel I accept NEVER liked your songs). And John Paul Jones, talented guy he is, is worth at to the lowest degree 3 Noel'due south.

Only notwithstanding information technology's Jimi for me easily downwards. Didn't Zep go Eddie Kramer from Jimi? Funny enough Jimmy Page claims he never saw Jimi Hendrix live. You lot accept all sort of virtually whatever guitar thespian around tell stories of seeing Jimi play or played with him later hours. Eric Clapton,Jeff Beck, Peter Townshend, Steve Stills, Mick Taylor and Lowell George come fix to mind.
I think Jimmy Page would take been able to fit correct in with whatever group that was playing the jazz stuff Jimi was playing. All those blues guys including Clapton could play that more primal Droney stuff that Miles did on In a Silent Way period and get away with information technology. Merely like I retrieve they would all be equally lost if they played more uptempo constantly revolving chord changes of more traditional jazz and were asked to improvise on the spot.
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Nonetheless, I am pretty sure they shared gigs when he was with the Yardbirds, and when Zep started out.
I am not talking virtually the stuff from In A Silent Way. I read somewhere that office of the reason that Miles Davis got Sonny Sharrock to play on the Jack Johnson album was that he that thought Sharrock'southward playing was similar to the sound of Hendrix that was influencing Miles Davis at the time. In that location are also stories of cut contests in the clubs betwixt Hendrix and Larry Coryell.
Jimi. In a league of his own.
Led Zep ? I blame them for all the abysmal heavy metal garbage that followed in their wake.
Hendrix was and so far beyond Led Zeppelin that it's non fifty-fifty fair
The "fury and hell-fire" office is of grade about personal perception, and and then I respect your view on that. But Page non the improviser Hendrix was? Have y'all listened to any Zep bootlegs?Soul? Hendrix was a rock singer. And he was a quite decent one. Simply let'due south not pretend he was more than than that as a vocalizer. Beingness an incredible guitar virtuoso, overall musical genius, and towering figure in the history of music is plenty, isn't it? No need to endeavour to make him into a peachy soul vocalizer.True - only only considering they're Celtic and are "the one" area Hendrix didn't explore, doesn't mean this fact doesn't count.Okay, I'm out of delicate means to say it: "Bonham is only a 4/four pounder" is then obviously false that it destroys your brownie.
I think the evidence for Hendrix is quite articulate and strong, even though personally I adopt Zeppelin. No demand to make light-headed arguments in order to evidence Hendrix's bona fides.
Great point. I also blame George Washington for all the stupid Presidents nosotros've had since.

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I didn't necessarily mean the actual stuff from that album just that the early electrical period (including Jack Johnson). Sure I think Hendrix would accept sounded great. I'k just saying that the jazz stuff he was jamming to was more in line with stuff that dejection guys (like say Carlos Santana) could play. This wasn't the complicated stuff that Wes Montgomery or Jim Hall were doing.
Anyways pitiful for being wordy. My overall point is that I remember as far as jazz goes Jimmy Page would be able to play the same kind of jazz that Hendrix would be capable-IMHO.
BTW as I mentioned upthread I do dearest Hendrix and I would have killed to see Hendrix play with Larry Coryell.
I blame them besides, I just don't hold information technology against them.
I also like Zeppelin but I like Hendrix ameliorate and I was trying to point out that Hendrix as well played funk and jazz as well as rock and blues. I have book hither somewhere where it spends much time talking about the influence of Hendrix on jazz and funk and vice versa.
Well, y'all've certainly had a few of those.
More than than a few, alas.
Yep I could definitely meet Hendrix having an influence on that early on 70 jazz/funk stuff like Funkadelic. What does suck is that nosotros never got to see where Hendrix would take gone vs us knowing for the virtually office what Jimmy Page'due south fulfilled legacy will be.
I observe Jimi's vocalization incredibly warm and soulful. Institute, by way of contrast, has always sounded like a shrieking harridan.
It's been awhile since I read the book only if I remember correctly the author asserts that without Hendrix, there probably would take been no Funkadelic, Prince and Lenny Kravitz among others. It besides contends the Sly and Family unit Stone and Hendrix influenced each other quite a bit besides as the Miles Davis electric period and that Hendrix had a big influence on the jazz fusion movement.
Distressing merely that quote is pure hogwash I'm not buying any of it.
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I used to feel that way, merely I don't call back information technology makes sense to arraign one artist for those who came after them. Should I fault the Beatles for Herman's Hermits?
If I wanted, I could blame Hendrix for all the pointless shredders that followed years later...
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you are taking this too personally
Hendrix's use of harmonic saturation recording and live-wise separates whatsoever/all electrical music to before and after his arrival. Led Zeppelin exist in his wake. Page was not going to pioneer the sonic break through Hendrix's arrival heralded.

I have heard plenty of Zep bootlegs, even seen them alive a few times. They could be dandy. They could exist sloppy. While Page can be tremendous, he was besides very erratic.

I am saying Hendrix wasn't neccessarily a rock singer, but was more than steeped in soul in his vocal nuances. I didn't say he was Wilson Pickett.

I didn't say because Hendrix didn't do folk it was irrelevant. I was pointing out that Jimmy was not necassarily the source or orgins for the culling tunings. In fact, if we are to talk influences Hendrix effectively melded blues, r&b/soul, stone and jazz such that his works are standards for improv within those worlds in addition to modern classical and the avant garde. Something that has not still happened with Zep.

Regarding Bonham, he is neat at what he does, and was made even greater by Page's production.

And for farther irony, to evidence how much Zep travelled in Hendrix's shadow. Hendrix's director was the one who inverse the game from the promoter's dictating a performer's fee. He turned it around to where headlining acts took the gross receipts and paid a percentage to the promoter, something Peter Grant would leverage to dandy outcome.
Non taking anything personally - information technology's all cool in that dept. This all most having fun and enjoying great music after all.
Permit me be articulate: Hendrix was a trail-blazer, changed the history of music. He also influenced Page, certainly more than than Page influenced him. And permit's remember that when Hendrix'southward last album came out, Zeppelin's unabridged history consisted of a few rehearsals in a room somewhere - they were a month away from even going into a studio to showtime recording their commencement album. And then of course Hendrix came commencement, and of course he was the more influential of the two in that sense.

Every bit for "harmonic saturation," Hendrix certainly blazed the trail. But it's just distortion subsequently all, and as early as 1966 Page (among the near seasoned of session guitarists by then) was using distortion in blues and psychedelic contexts not different from the milieu Hendrix was working in. From late '66 onward, when Page took over lead guitar, the group had a much heavier, distortion-based sound. Again, I agree Hendrix came commencement for all intents and purposes. But Page and Zeppelin were correct at that place too.

And be careful about overstating the original/derivative distinction. Hendrix sounded different than those before him, truthful. Simply thanks in large measure out to production and percussion, Zeppelin sounded different than those before them, too. Jeff Brook's Truth, for instance, is on paper a virtual clone of Led Zeppelin I (or possibly vice-versa). But the records audio totally different. IMHO it's why Zep records never audio dated.

Finally, Bonham was indeed great at what he did, though from your post I become the impression that you lot and I would disagree almost how narrow or broad "what he did" actually was.

At any charge per unit, thank you for the stimulating discussion, young man-Philly area SH member!
Simply a Zeppelin fan-boy on this thread would affirm Hendrix didn't produce any epic tracks -- Machine Gun is just one instance; and to the ears of many rock enthusiasts (even Zeppelin fans), it is epic. "Arguing" that Hendrix was more diverse than Zeppelin isn't a problem; the music speaks for itself. Zeppelin was an incredible band, only to deed as if Zeppelin's body of work was in another league comes across equally bullheaded devotion. The reality is that both Hendrix and Zeppelin evolved and incorporated different styles and sounds into their work. If one wants to argue ane was more diverse than the other, some of information technology is subjective, but both were extremely talented and both expanded their musical direction. To dismiss Hendrix equally a limited human action constrained by a trio format while Zeppelin turned rock upside down through various epic track after ballsy track seems like cheer-leading rather than objective analysis.